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now linked and it works

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[CW record of L Sanger words]

[CW channel]

[CW Rules]

[Media Wiki userguide]

[OrgPatterns frozen pages]

[WikiMedia Happenings]

[SeattleWiki (a Media Wiki) example page (in special list)]


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[list of links to digital camera tips, including photo.net]

[digital photography review, singapore? from Gadgetguy at digital show]

from http://greenlightwiki.com/travelstories/How_to_prevent_wars_on_wiki_expanded_version

<kept here temporarily in case it gets changed / deleted > How to prevent wars on wiki expanded version

To wiki gnomes • If you see that this page has been deleted, please restore it. • Please don't trim this down and down and turn it back into a copy of HowToPreventWarsOnWiki?. This page has intentionally been left in the longer style.

I don't care... I'm tired of seeing Robert bitch about people editing his pages, learn to deal with it. We don't need two page for same damn topic just to please that ego maniac. This is wiki, people trim and edit pages, and Robert isn't special, he'll either learn to cope, or people will continue to make life hard on him. If this page still exists in the morning, I will delete it.

[This goes to show how conflictual and unreasonable you can be It's not about trimming and imposing one's style. It's about respecting the fact that some people are different. What's wrong with making two pages when the subject is important? I can summarize as good as anyone here. So what? We'll have a usless compendium of one liners and clichιs on wiki. Is that what your idea of a wiki is? This is not about being egomaniac. It's about being efficient and about saying something in a page. I am proposing 2 styles and you want to impose yours by deleting mine. Who's being egomaniac? -- ar

PS: When you read an article on the paper, you want it to be one liners? "Boys have more libido than girls". When you read a novel, you want just the summary? We are not machines, we are individuals. We want some beef and not useless one liners.]

This is the morning, for me.

I'm trying to find a way to prevent these wars. I've had a constructive exchange with Robert, and I think progress is being made. If you continue simply to remove his edits then there will be no resolution. He will continue to attack, insult, deface and otherwise be regarded as a pest. I would rather see him become an accepted contributor. How will you help me to do this? Feel free to take this exchange to email -- ColinWright?

Easy solution: I'll put the expanded page on my wiki and you can just put a URL at the end of the HowToPreventWarsOnWiki?. It's ironic that we are having a war with this page that is supposed to teach us how to prevent a war! :-) But all in all this extending the wiki in many directions like Auto-pcn, ColorPosts? etc. is a good idea. We can even settle our differences this way! So feel free to delete this page and I'll put a link to the expanded version on my wiki later on. -- ar

You could do that ... where is your wiki?

It's here!


We have suffered a ridiculous battle of wills between a minority of WikiZens? for many months. This battle is now over but we must nevertheless remain vigilant so that new conflicts do not erupt on wiki.

What follows are a few guidelines to prevent wars on wiki.

The best attitude to adopt • In your relationships with other wikizens, AssumeGoodFaith? until proven otherwise. Mathematically you are right: 94-95% of the general population is in good faith and the rest is made up of delinquents. We have roughly the same percentage on wiki. Therefore chances you'll bump into a delinquent are very slim! • Invite participants in a wiki war to take their private fight to e-mail or to private chat and to refrain from settling their personal accounts publicly: Wiki is not a virtual boxing ring. Ask the belligerents to spare us and spare our younger participants with the spectacle of grown-up wikizens fighting over some silliness on wiki as if they were 5 year olds fighting for a sandcastle on the beach on a hot summer day. • Do not take sides. Remain scrupulously neutral so that the fire does not expand. If you take sides, the conflict will become generalized and soon we'll have two or more clans bickering.

• When someone invites you to join a holy war for wiki and starts flaming a wikizen, don't go. There are no such things as holy wars for wiki for wiki does not accept or like wars least of all holy wars. • If you are hurt by a wikizen's post, if he attacks you personally say so. Do not start a flame war or an edit war to retaliate. Too often wikizens get on the attack and start edit wars, or gang-ups against the person who has bad-mouthed them. They think their opponent will be able to decipher their "subliminal message" and he will consequently stop the bad-mouthing. It just does not work that way! Often the bad-mouther does not realize what he has done, therefore he fails to see why he is being attacked: he sees himself as a victim, he feels cornered and he counter-attacks. His opponent feels he is adding insult to injury, there is an escalation of violence and things often get out of hand.

• It is not at all a bad idea to appoint oneself as mediator and to try to appease tensions like a great wikizen named RonJandrasi? has courageously done in May 2004 during the AR problem pages edit conflict. When the mediation is done in a transparent and in an efficient way, wikizens are able to see quickly who clearly wants to end the war and who wants to keep it alive. Since those who want to keep the flame war alive are hurting their own reputation, chances are they'll stop their attacks pretty soon. When everyone remains neutral and is afraid to intervene, conflicts can go o for months on wiki. A mediator can end a war in a day or two. • On wiki no one controls anyone: there is no leadership, no ruling clique, o class of citizens, no enforcers of the wiki so called canonical rule. There is room here for all styles, all creeds, all perspectives, all points of view. The only two solid cardinal rules here are: 1) UseYourRealName?; 2) Do not write off topic pages (however some off topic pages are tolerated). If a wikizen wants to impose his style of writing on you, oppose him politely but firmly. But do try to understand his point of view first. • Exercise self-control and patience. Humans can be defective for short or long periods of time. Try to understand. • Don't hate WikiCitizens?. A Course in Miracles says that one can only hate what one recognizes in oneself. Exercise benevolence empathy and compassion. Help clean up the Wiki space, or just bear the BadKarma? you feel has been put upon your shoulders. This is how you gain GoodKarma?. • Be relentless, and relentlessly civil. This is a good community made up of a big majority of people in good faith and, hopefully all can be accommodated. • Consider practicing BusinessAsUsual?, FixYourWiki?, and other wiki gardening. • For consideration: it is better that the malice transpires in here, rather than OutThere?. Including this page. In here, it is so easily mended. • If you seek the LastWord?, then you have missed the point. Peace on wiki is the last word you must seek.

Cleaning up the mess • Picking up garbage is an obligation on Wiki. Delete all rude comments. See: HowToReactToaFlame?. But if you consider it necessary, move them to the poster's homepage; provide context if you feel generous. Ensure that what remains is coherent and retains the valid points. • Conversely, do not put inflammatory pages on Wiki. • Do not name names, don't criticize, don't insult, simply leave things better than you found them. • Don't overclean. Step back, let someone else do it, and let the community right itself. If just 2 or 3 individuals are the ones cleaning the mess, it starts to look more like a conspiracy, and less like an action by the consensus. • Do not gloat. This is not a war, or a battle. We are simply doing our chores... our noble and humble ritual. • Do not delete anyone's homepage. The creator of garbage must take responsibility for GarbageCollection? (or recycling :-))

Contributors: Anonymous Contributor(s), RonJandrasi?, RobertAbitbol?

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